Amarr/Min don't need such a room.

Everyone already knows Amarr is superior.

Why did it not edit the "b-word"? Is that not a bad word in some countries?

It's kind of hard to pick a side because both sides have a lot of good things about them, and a lot of bad things too. Or at least that's the impression I got from reading Templar One.

Yes, I've read Templar One.

No, that doesn't mean I know a lot about Eve. For a book that claims to bridge the link between Eve Online and Dust 514, it offers surprisingly little lore.

But at least I now know the meaning behind 514, and a possible meaning for why Legion is named Legion.

I'm not a huge fan of corporations either, but Caldari has a few people that I would classify "good" in every sense of the word.

Mens Reppola is a hero and I would gladly devote myself to serving Ishukone under his leadership. Seriously, in Templar One he is one of the few that actively tries to do what is right to protect those under his watch and the universe at large.

He is a true hero.

I should have been asleep two hours ago... I'm going to be so sleepy tomorrow...

but sir Raven Wing, I sent you a message telling you what 514 means. keep it a secret because that means there's more of a mystery to the game. and it gives lore hunters something to try to discover.

Ishukone are cool folks.

It's a shame the rest of the State prosecute them for it.



I'm sorry, but even if you knew your lore, you wouldn't win.
Why?
It's an internet argument.
Internet arguments are never won.

FW has teamkillers everywhere. It's kind of sad tbh.

I'd rather win a match fairly than have some random idiots on the other team screw over any chance of their resistance.

Great RPing there man

As a Gallente I believe you're entitled to your beliefs man, and I am the last one to deny the outrageous war-crimes of the government or the pretty facades and rotten core of the Crystal Boulevard.

But there is one reason, why the Gallente culture will outshine the other empires: The ability to adapt new ideas, beliefs, systems and cultures more easily and integrate them into our own. The Amarr will stagnate, the Caldari will liberate themselves from dictatorship, the Minmatar ... well ... they are on the right track ;)
The ability to change, learn, integrate versus dogma and exclusion and the inhumanity of efficiency. There is no chance you will last unchanged. As for the stupid government idiots in the seats atm? Next election they will go down (and I didn't vote them anyway)!

If this is place for GAL/cal debate,what those amarrian are doing here?
Did they not found any room to enslave

since im currently employed by ishukone, i'd like to say that since Cal-prime, they've given me a chance to enact a semi-normal life, away from most of the fighting.

all im going to say is that they've done right by me, so when the time comes i'll do right by them.
that and i already have the necessary papers to do equally well elsewhere should i decide to move to greener pastures, or retire and settle down in my home reigons


That being said, i need more popcorn :D

I would like to know at what point in human history gravity could not be observed.
When our ancestors dropped a ball, did it hover until someone decided that there should be gravity?

It is a basic principle of science that one should have at least some evidence for a theory before proposing it.
You have none, yet you devote yourselves to it regardless.

There is a significant difference accepting that not everything can yet be explained, and insisting that something you have not explained exists. The former is a part of science, the latter is not.

You speak to me of your Empire's scientific progress, but I would note that some of your greatest scientists did not believe in your faith.

Faith pretends to explain it.

I do not disregard the possibility of a divine entity existing.

I do, however, object to the rigid obsession the Amarrians have. Based on nothing but irrational convictions, they have butchered and enslaved for centuries. Worlds subjugated, cultures crushed, and people exterminated. It goes against everything I believe in, and principles of logic and reason have never supported them.

The existence of a divine entity does not mandate the Amarrian's religious crusades.

The Gallente aren't trying to control the Caldari. They're trying to ensure that their cities aren't razed and their worlds aren't auctioned off.
Not only is it falsely accusatory, but it's also rather hypocritical of you to point fingers at the Federation for destroying cultures.
Let's look at the Intaki example. When the Intaki were discovered, the Gallente respected their culture, assisted them technologically, and ultimately the Intaki evolved naturally into their own entity - the Intaki Assembly, an entity which remains distinct to this day. The Caldari took zero interest in the Intaki, and focused on developing their secret colonies.


When the Caldari encountered the Achura while building these colonies, they crushed them and instated Caldari rule.

Some time later, the Intaki homeworld found itself being auctioned by the Caldari. The Caldari decry the Gallenteans for holding Caldari Prime (which is primarily inhabited by ethnic Gallente), complain about the loss of their culture, how precious their homeworld is, and then they go ahead and literally sell the Intaki homeworld for industry, a world steeped in culture and the birthplace of a people.

Frankly, the war and secession never should have happened. They wouldn't have happened, either, except people were quite ludicrously provocative. In case you ever find yourself a diplomat, let me advise you that in the event of a solid ally getting upset with you for secretly building a military, the correct way of dealing with that ally is not to immediately break off all alliances with them and then blow up one of their cities.


If the Gallente were truly bent on conquering the Caldari, there is little you could do to stop them. The Caldari State is under half the size of the Federation - if the Federation chose to throw everything into crushing the Caldari, it would happen. It would be bloody in the extreme, but it would happen.

Similarly, if the Amarr Empire threw everything into assaulting the Federation, the Federation would almost certainly lose. Again, it would be bloody in the extreme, but in the end that is how it would play out.

Nobody wants to go into a full scale war, though, exactly because of how insanely costly it would be.
All the empires would make any conquest of them a long and grinding war at best.

The Amarr have ridiculously large fleets and are the largest group in the cluster.
The Caldari have a highly militarised state where everyone in their small population is required to serve.
The Gallente have the strongest economy in New Eden, and the Minmatar have a habit of coming back to bite their conquerors as well as being far more closely allied with the Federation than the Amarr are allied with the Caldari.

If it came down to it, though, and the empires all went full military, the Amarr would win. Not that there'd be many people left, after that. As any war drags on, sides get more desperate and more brutalities happen. Given the obscene amount of damage modern weaponry can do, I would be unsurprised to see doomsday weapons deployed against planetary populations. The Caldari have already almost tried it.

As for why I fight the Caldari as well as the Amarr: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2458442#post2458442

Paraphrasing a lot, and incorrectly.

So you say that you are better than us.
How?



This is exactly what you did.
Even monasteries were razed if they were on a convenient mining site.
How is this better than our respectful treatment of the Intaki, exactly?


By the way, your extremist group was your government for a while. It's not really much good saying that they weren't representative of you, because they most certainly were.

So you're saying CCP is god?